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FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 6:00pm PST
over a fiscal cliff and now maybe might get a mini deal and now they are engaged. don't you think that is irresponsible from the democratic standpoint. i think republicans have made mistakes. they spend too much money, too. >> sean, it has been irresponsible on the part of the whole congress. this is why they are held in such low esteem. as a governor of a state you you have to balance a budget, it is state law you in most states. this is why i called for a constitutional amendment to balance the budget when i was running for president four years ago. i didn't get very far. it was not popular. my point is that look i served in the congress. these negotiations happen on budgets, on taxes, on even foreign policy issues the last days when the presidential hopefuls he sure is really on. when the gun is pointing to the head of a lot of members of congress. bipartisan, republican and democrats. it is moving in the right direction. we have three, four days to go. i wouldn't be surprised ifing something doesn't happen until the very last day. but i think it will. i sense that. >> sean: le
CNN
Dec 28, 2012 1:00pm PST
powerful political position to get what they want in a fiscal cliff deal? >> it's kind of a strange situation. most conservatives in the house want to go over the cliff because they want to vote to lower taxes and they will have the ability to do that once taxes go up after january 1st. >> it just sounds better. >> right. >> rather than i let your taxes go up. >> exactly. i think politically, though, all of the policy moves in the direction of the democrats, right? tax rates go up. big spending cuts at the pentagon. and all the polls show that the republicans are going to be blamed for all of this. so obama -- as the one guy in this town that wants a deal more than anyone. on the other hand, he's probably the guy that purely political benefits the most after january 3rd satisfy in a stronger negotiating position. he'll also have, remember, a few more democrats in the house and in the senate. so the white house will be strengthened after this happens. but a lot of people in the white house and treasury department don't want that to happen because they think the markets may freak out.
FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 6:00am PST
. we have passed a bill to deal with the fiscal cliff. harry reid is becoming the ultimate cliff diver here by saying we're not going to even let our house, the senate house function. we're going to dive off the cliff and blame the republicans at every ledge down the way. gregg: cliff diving a new political sport. and senator lindsey graham also speaking out suggesting that he doubts that anything will get done during today's last-minute washington meeting. take a listen. >> anytime you announce a meeting publicly in washington it usually for political theater purposes. nothing good ever cops from it. there is one then you have to do in politics. if a president meets with a foreign leader you want to make sure you know what will happen at the meeting. when the president calls congressional leaders to the white house it is all political theater or they have a deal. my bet it is all political theater. gregg: senator graham warned he thinks our nation will go over the cliff and president's offer to fix it does nothing other than, quote, this is a quote, damn us to becoming greece. patti a
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 12:00pm PST
states and around the world. there has been a major snag in the negotiations toward a fiscal cliff deal with fewer than two days remaining on the countdown clock, dana bash is on capitol hill. tell us what the main point of contention is now. >> there are few according to sources in both parties. the biggest one when it comes to the democrats, from their point of view, is the fact that republicans in an offer that they made last night included what is known as chained cpi in laymen's terms and in terms that matter to many americans, it would effectively make social security checks lower each month. >> we learned this from sources earlier. the senate majority leader, harry reid went to the senate floor and talked about the snag. list ton what he said. >> the one thing i do want to mention is that we're not going to have any social security cuts at this stage, that doesn't seem appropriate. we're open to just discussion about entitlement reforms, but we're going to have to take it in a different direction, the present status will not work. we're willing to make concessions as part of a ba
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 3:00am PST
chief correspondent ali velshi. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they're extended by 2020, the bush-era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insist that taxes go up for the wealthy but stay in place permane
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 6:00am PST
day. >> kelly: we've been talk being the fiscal cliff and getting a deal, the president is coming back and the senate is coming back. the house is not. house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >> juliet: yeah. >> clayton: that's news. i'll make sure i'm there. gregg: fox news alert. millions at the mercy of mother nature this morning after a massive storms slams the northeast bringing snow, rain, high winds, icy road conditions. more than 50 flights have been canceled today following the grounding of more than 1700 the day before. coming up in minutes we'll go live to anna kooiman live in scranton, pennsylvania where folks are trying to dig out from more than a foot of snow. but first, bad weather making be delaying lawmakers plans to get back to the negotiating table in washington, d.c. good morning, i'm gregg
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 5:00am PST
continues. jessica yellin, thanks. >>> and january 1st is the deadline to make a deal on the fiscal cliff. for some states, it's a day that a series of new laws are going to take effect. let me get you clued in here. in california, talking more than 800 new laws, including one requiring apartments and condos to install carbon monoxide detectors. separately, employers will no longer be able to ask job applicants for log ins to social media accounts, such as facebook and twitter. and the increase between 28 cents and 37 cents per hour affects more than 1 million low-income earners. thanks to laws that have lower minimum wage to keep price. and the price of stamps is set to go up? e, again, by a penny, on january 27th, which brings the price of sending first-class mail to 46 cents. >>> well, the senate has also approved a five-year extension of the foreign intelligence surveillance act allowinging the government to eavesdrop on overseas phone calls and e-mails from potential terrorists. they say it's protected us from more attacks like 9/11. others argue the bill could be abused. the bill is
FOX Business
Dec 27, 2012 11:00am EST
as lawmakers continue to scramble to get a fiscal cliff deal done. rich edson has the latest. rich: they are considering legislation here in the senate today. president obama says he called to talk to congressional leaders, democrats and republicans, last evening. there is no progress here to report. president obama put it all on the house. >> they are operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass overwhelmingly speaking that 250 he is discussing that would keep tax rates where they are for income amount for less than $250,000 increased those earning more. house speaker says senator reed should talk less and legislate more. senate democrats have not. they want to extend all the current tax rates and avoid some of the spending cuts. democrats are on their opening offer. they basically have not moved anywhere. there is less than a week to go. >> senator reid talking about a less than $250,000 limit. speaking right. exactly. liz
CNBC
Dec 26, 2012 7:00pm EST
left in 2012. no fiscal cliff dealing in sight. now we are talking about hitting the debt ceiling on december 31. what are the top trades for 2013? cnbc contributor michael farr. good to see you. great to have you here. >> thanks, michelle. wonderful to be with you. >> have you heard about what timothy geithner said tonight? >> you are way better looking than kudlow. i know you heard that. this is a much better screen to look at from our glide flattery will get you everywhere. did you hear secretary geithner sent out a note saying that -- letter, official letter saying we are going to hit the debt ceiling monday. lee business days notice. >> perfect. >> what will that do to the markets tomorrow? >> you and i talked about this is a couple of years ago when we hit hit it in july and i was dead wrong. i was entirely dead wrong. i thought congress would make sure we wouldn't lose our aaa debt rate. >> and we did. >> and -- yeah. i figured certainly logically that yields would go up on bonds. and that the stock market would fall and just the opposite happening. what happen this time to
CNBC
Dec 27, 2012 7:00pm EST
for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs from one side to the other and it's not clear as a result of all that whether a deal can, i
CNN
Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm PST
the country from plunging over that fiscal cliff. here's what both sides are considering in a potential deal right now. an increase in tax rates for families making over $450,000 a year. extending unemployment benefits. and an increase in the estate tax. the president seemed hopeful but cautious when he addressed the american people earlier today. >> today, it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> let's get straight to our chief white house correspondent jessi jessica yellin. she's over at the white house with the very latest. the president seems pretty optimistic that it's within a few hours we could have a deal, right? >> reporter: wolf, the people i just spoke to here say they are no more or less optimistic than they were this morning. which is to say they are not cueing the confetti just yet. senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader on the hill, is still talking to the white house. the white house is in constant c
CBS
Dec 30, 2012 7:30am PST
the fiscal cliff in just hours, time is running out for congress to make a deal. and what a difference a day makes. on thursday, things looked bleak. >> speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate we have not heard a word from leader mcconnell. nothing is happening. >> we wanted an agreement, but we had no takers. >> o'donnell: it took a trip to the white house and a package scolding from the president. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. >> o'donnell: but by week's end, senate leaders agreed to make a last-ditch effort to get a deal. >> so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm going to do everything i can. i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. >> o'donnell: we'll have the
CNN
Dec 31, 2012 9:00am PST
you, dana. the clock is ticking, 12 hours before we hit that fiscal cliff deadline. if a deal is not reached, how is it going to affect us? the tax policy center crunched numbers. here's a couple scenario. if you're single with no kids and you make $50,000 a year, you you see your taxes go up by $1500. now, take a married couple with two kids making $100,000. they would see their taxes go up $5300 a year. i want to turn to christine patrolman m romans in new york to talk about the people that are really, really going to feel this immediately and it's going to have the greatest impact. who are they? >> the first people to feel it are on extended federal unemployment benefits. for them, for 2 million of them suzanne, on december 29th, that was the end of the last week of unemployment benefits for them. so immediately hundreds of dollars a week of unemployment benefits go away. for everyone else, anybody who works at a company and pays payroll taxes, your taxes will rise. it looks like that will happen no matter what. your pay dhek will be p smaller no matter what because the pay
CNBC
Dec 31, 2012 4:00am EST
that the sh we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal, left wing agenda. it used to be considered a mainstream agenda. and it's something we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is ancation of, you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone where they can't even accept what used to be centrist mainstream positions on these issues. i'm an optimist. we try every other option before we finally do the right thing. after everything else is exhausted, we eventually do the right thing. and i think that's true for congress, as well. and i think it's important for americans to remember politics have always been messy. people have been asking me a lot about the film "lincoln" and -- >> is this your lincoln moment? >> well, no. look, i never compare myself to lincoln and, b, the magnitude of the issues are quite different from
FOX Business
Dec 28, 2012 9:20am EST
celebrex. for a body in motion. stuart: in the absence of the likelihood of a fiscal cliff deal the dow is down 88 points sitting right at 13,000. we're tired of talking about the negotiations and the political in-fighting on the fiscal cliff issue. we want to know what happens to our money if we go flat-out over it. which seems likely. joining us is a certified financial planner and he's got the numbers for us. go through this one at a time. go flat out, a cliff dive, what happens to the income taxes i pay? >> number one on income taxes, six brackets,10%, 35%. now five brackets, 15% to 39.%. everybody to currently pays federal income tax will come january pay more. >> pay more tax absolutely. stuart: next one, estate taxes. >> probably one of most unfair taxes there are, but estate taxes are going up. currently 35%, going up as high as 55%, but that's not the only problem. you have exemption amounts that in 2012 were 5 million dollars a person. portability meant that you could have portable, if your spouse died 10 million exemption, going to 1 million dollar exemption, no portability.
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 2:00am PST
, thank you. >>> here in washington, hope is fading for a deal before the country reaches the fiscal cliff just eight days from now and we are counting really by the hour at this point until we go over the edge. congress and the president are not here. they have stopped trying for now. home from the holidays and not that optimistic about a christmas miracle. listen to retiring senator joe liberman on "state of the union." >> i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. maybe ever, in american history. >> are white house correspondent prix anna kebrianna keilar is traveling with the president and joins us from hawaii. >> they can still talk, right? true. but the people who matter are not. perhaps the lines of xhoukz are open between the white house and senate democrats. but the white house at this point is not in discussion with not only speaker john boehner but the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell and perhaps because of that, you hav
FOX News
Dec 31, 2012 1:00am PST
a deal on the fiscal cliff? we are going to debate that plus, france says no to high taxes on the rich. could the united states learn something from that? we'll analyze that when we come back. ♪ need not wonder why ♪ ♪ no tim ♪ ♪ you're a heartbreaker, dream maker ♪ >> welcome back to a sunday prime time edition of "the five." and as the clock ticks down and going over the so-called fiscal cliff. no deal he yet, but there is some finger pointing going on. >> i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we all know we're running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. we need to protect the american families and businesses from this looming tax hike. everyone agrees that that option is necessary. >> i will say this, i think that the republican leader has shown absolutely good faith, but it's just that we're apart on some pretty big issues. >> and senator reid-- >> this has been a blame game from the very, very beginning and dana, we saw today president obama take to the sunday shows and spend the whole time blaming republicans. if we
FOX Business
Dec 29, 2012 6:00am EST
are trying to negotiate a scaled-down debt deal to avoid some of the fiscal cliff and take other major decisions on taxes and spending to the future. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part ofhe discussion. that is significant development r house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and rep
CBS
Dec 28, 2012 7:00am PST
the can down the road, jeff we'll do some small deal, and we'll create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. again, a total lack of courage, lack of leadership. >> senator corker does congress realize how ridiculous this looks to the american public duelling press conferences, zero substance. we are minutes away from a deadline here and it doesn't look like anyone in washington is taking it seriously. >> i think most of us understand it. i think you guys know that i've laid out a very detailed bill to deal with it. i shared it with the white house, with speaker boehner, with leaders at every level. i've put forth an entitlement reform package. the problem is we don't want to face up to the tough issues that our nation is dealing with and yes, i think we understand that. we should not be having back room meetings. the reason we have the closed door meetings is again we don't have the courage to debate these issues out on the senate floor. >> so that no one gets the blame, instead everybody gets the blame. >> that's exactly right. >> i want to ask you a
CSPAN
Dec 31, 2012 7:00am EST
say major progress make progre toward a fiscal cliff deal. guest: mitch mcconnell when they spoke yesterday, he called in joe biden and said he needed a partner to work with. joe biden, who was in delaware and had not been involved in negotiations, came in at the end to try to work out something. it does seem like overnight they were talking and making the kind of progress that they had been hoping for. we are really at the clock ticking before the end of the year host: what about the house? if lawmakers and the white house are not able to read this last ditch effort, the country will likely go over the fiscal cliff, as you pointed out. guest: the house speaker had said very clearly that they do not anticipate passing anything before the senate passes something, but they want to see what the senate does. they will then take that bill and either amend it or approve it. if they amend, they will send the amended version back to the senate. over the weekend bypassed some rule changes that will allow them to move more quickly and do those sorts of things rather than the waiting period
FOX News
Dec 30, 2012 3:00am PST
newspaper reports what in the world is going on with the fiscal cliff, you hear about a small deal sort of in the works between harry reid and mitch mcconnell, maybe it's not voted on until monday, maybe no deal at all. maybe sequestration is going to happen so for that let's go to washington. >> juliet: all right. tick-tock, tick-tock, time is almost up for lawmakers as we say to avert the fiscal cliff. they worked throughout the weekend in hopes of hammering out some sort of deal. >> dave: peter doocy is live in washington and we hustle you over to the capitol. and what is the latest, do you think we'll get something done? >> reporter: dave, we were told late in the evening that legislative staff was going to work through the night, but the only principal we heard from was mitch mcconnell who said he and his democratic counterparts have been trading paper all day saturday, but the only big news, mcconnell cared to share with us, in the state he represents, kentucky, louisville beat the university of kentucky by three and meanwhile, the officially republican weekly address features ano
FOX News
Dec 31, 2012 3:00pm PST
will the deadline. for a deal here in washington. politicians self-imposed fiscal cliff. the effort to make the consequences so unattractive for missing that, that both sides would have to come to agreement. at this hour, there is no legislation to vote on yet. there is every indication officially it's over that cliff we go. some things are settled. others are still in flux. that is where it starts to get technical. so let's bring in fox team coverage to straighten it out. chief white house correspondent ed henry looks at messaging and movement from president obama today. first, chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel on what seems to have been settled and how and what is still up in the air at this late hour. hi, mike. >> hi. bret. we hear from the republican senators they are optimistic and hopeful that a vote can happen sometime, perhaps later tonight. senator mitch mcconnell e-mailed and said he thought the deal was done until the white house called to say the sequestered cuts should be turned off. since then, she trying to find a way to bye down months of the cut but says the ta
CBS
Dec 27, 2012 7:00am PST
they may well just go over the fiscal cliff and deal with it in january after the new congress is sworn in. leaving his family behind to continue their vacation without him, president obama boarded air force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader harry reid told members to be prepared to address fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get lawmakers to come together before the end of the year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short term spending cuts instead of the massive long-term cuts that would happen if there is no deal. after our wednesday conference call, house republican leaders issued a statement saying they were waiti
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 11:00am PST
is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty apparent that we are not going to do what we've been called to do. this is 112th congress. we have had two years to deal with quote the fiscal cliff. >> let's bring in our man at the white house, peter alexander standing by. pete, we just got word the president it appears is making some sort of smaller offer at this 3:00 meeting. any idea what smaller might mean? >> reporter: it's a good question, craig. actually kelly o'donnell reporting some more of this from the hill. she says that income level of $400,000 that the president had more recently offered as the place beneath which he wanted to make sure there was an extension of the bush era tax cuts according to kelly not a part of this plan. democrats say that offer for the president which represented a compromise that we had heard about last week as part of a bigger proposal is not a part of the plan to be discussed behind closed doors. only a short time from now. the real question is
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 10:00am PST
people are saying this fiscal cliff deal isn't going to happen pause the two sides are too far apart and there simply isn't enough time yet. mark, i will begin with you, what happens if we go over the cliff? what will americans experience? >> well i think we are going to go over the cliff. quite frankly i think it is a good thing the prospects of getting a deal after january 1 are significantly higher and that is for three reasons. first now president obama has all the leverage. after january 1st the leverage shifts to the gop. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deduct
CNN
Dec 28, 2012 2:00am PST
we would go over the fiscal cliff, if there is no deal. john boehner shot back saying that reid needs to talk less and legislate more. but really this comes down to working out, cobbling together something that can get support. president obama wants that tax cut threshold to be at $250,000. well, mitch mcconnell poured some cold water on that yesterday. so they need to come to some sort of agreement on where the threshold would be. we don't know what it would be yet in the senate. >> 250,000 for the democratic side and republicans couldn't even agree on a million. that's a $750,000 gap they have to close. let's hope they do that. thank you. >>> commanders in chief past and present paying tribute to retired general norman schwarzkopf this morning. the commander of coalition forces during the gulf war died yesterday at 78. schwarzkopf was the face of military briefings during the first cable news war. former president george h.w. bush who is hospitalized, said the general was a true american patriot, one of the great military leaders of this generation. >>> new york city police are look
CSPAN
Dec 30, 2012 7:00am EST
as these issues are hanging. so we get a fiscal cliff this deal and i think he's going to be gone by the end of the month but i think it's kind of up t in the air. host: says a contender for his job would be jack lew. guest: that's the betting money. is his job if he wants it. and there's some question if he wants it. that's a big commitment. i think he would be expected to stay for the entire term. he has been a white house official throughout the time. so the question is if he wents to take it and if he wents it he'll probably get it. host: where did he come from before chief of staff? guest: he's been in government for a long time. he was the budget director for president clinton. he was on wall street during the bush. but he basically made his bones in the government. he was a long-time assistant to former house speaker tip o'neal. he helped put together the social security deal so he's been involved with budget issues for quite some time in the 80s and 90s. host: christina next. caller: thanks for c-span. host: go ahead. caller: thank you so much for c-span. i'm having a problem because
FOX Business
Dec 31, 2012 11:00am EST
a fiscal cliff deal until late january, but the possible market turmoil to follow could create a stock buying opportunity. joining me now, global financial services president and portfolio manager. of course you'll see the glass half full on this one. yet been saying this since november, to be fair. >> taking the position that we don't think the politicians are really going to get anything done until the backs of firmly against the wall which will be after the first pay cycle of the new year. that's why we are expecting third week of january, but this is also an opportunity. we have to recognize that. if you look at the market today, just imagine. if you pull 20 investment professionals yesterday we probably would have said markets are going to be down today. better than expected economic news. cheryl: is trying to, but they're is a lot -- one of the best performing sectors of 2012 was financials. it would have predicted that at the beginning of 2012? is in that kind of hard for people to focus on what sectors for people to look at when you have this crowd of cliff uncertainty? >> ther
FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 3:00pm PST
. thank you. >>> three days to cut a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff. fox all-stars weigh in when we come back. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. the red cross was down here all the time. [ man ] they've given us a lot of heart. in times of need, they're there. ♪ [ kerry ] my dad was watching his house burn. he turned around, and all of a sudden, therwas this guy standing there from the red cross. at a point where i had just lost everything, the idea that there was someone there... that's an amazing thing. ♪ i am modestly optimistic an agree. can be achieved. no one is going to get 100% of what they want but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> we engaged in discussions, majority leader myself and the white house. in the hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have recommendati
CSPAN
Dec 29, 2012 7:00am EST
negotiating the fiscal cliff deal. the work they're still trying to get done. the first call comes from lee in florida. caller: i tried to call in yesterday, but everybody was concerned about this matter. let me give you a website that i have been e-mail in over 400 people. it is the website -- you go to search "cause of war." this is the biggest cover up by all of the politicians of their in washington, d.c., including both bushes and of mr. obama. host: and what does this have to do with the senate negotiating a fiscal of deal? caller: let me tell you something. if you go to the website listed on the left and upper side, united states -- each tax coming out of each state is going towards the or. -- war. i believe all of these politicians, mayors, governors should take a half cut pay to pay down the deficit. host: we are going to move on to darwin on the line for independents. caller: it is like the pentelikon, back in 1968 i was even fighting with the pentagon over budgets. you always had to have everything kept the same. nobody was going to change anything because next year there were go
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
pass a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, but is that optimism justified even if the senate can can come together and craft a deal? a very big if at this point and what are the chances that house speaker john boehner can get members of his congress to go along with the deal. joining me now perry bacon and lynn sweet. i want to start with you because i read something that you wrote an article recently in which you said basically that the rumors of the tea party's demise have been greatly exaggerated noting their key role in refusing to go along with john boehner's tax plan to raise taxes on those making more than $1 million a year. the fiscal cliff debate has illustrated then during influence of the tea party and the power of the conservative party. boehner can't guarantee that his members won't face primary challenges from the right so there's little surprise they won't follow his lead. >> mcconnell's not going agree to something that all other republicans are opposed to because he's a republican, too, and he has to worry about a primary, potentially, as well. the core of this i
CNN
Dec 28, 2012 11:00am PST
back because of the fiscal cliff. they're coming back in case there is a potential deal, in case there is something to debate and discuss. now, there are other things they can do if there is no fiscal cliff deal. namely hurricane sandy supplemental might need work, also work on the farm bill, also overdue. there are other things, plenty of business to work open, but the truth is they're coming back because of the fiscal cliff, in case there might be a deal, and also to show that they're working until the last minute. >> lisa, i love you, but you just depress me. >> oh, no! >> i know. >> have faith. have faith. honestly, it is not -- these guys are best at the last minute. i think we're far from the last minute, though it feels that way to a lot of people. especially the unemployed losing their benefits tomorrow. it is a serious matter. they're best at the last minute and they're not there yet. >> we shall see. >> try to smile. >> i'll try. i'm sure many americans are trying as well. >>> we talked about the effect of hitting the fiscal cliff on american taxpayers. what about busin
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 4:00pm PST
barack obama said he was optimistic that a deal on the fiscal cliff could be reached. that might have been a mistake. ahead, more on the fiscal cliff and the dwindling hope that a deal can be reached. it's all part of our special coverage of the fiscal cliff crisis with me and ali velshi. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the sce
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 4:00am PST
in washington today to figure out an 11th-hour deal on the fiscal cliff, but what about the house, which punted on boehner's plan b. house congressman steve latourette, by the way someone who has repudiated grover norquist's pledge joins us next. >>> and mark zuckerberg's sister confused about facebook's privacy settings. we'll have the details of that ahead. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 2:00am PST
to the white house today to work on the ever looming fiscal cliff. can he cut a deal with republicans. >>> and david gregory may be in trouble of the law because of that ammo thing he has on his anchor desk. [ male announcer ] the more you lose, the more you lose, because for every two pounds you lose through diet and exercise, alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. let's fight fat with alli. ♪ ♪ you make me happy when skies are gray ♪ [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. [ humming ] by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> th
FOX Business
Dec 27, 2012 9:20am EST
.o.p. that they should not stand in the way of a last minute deal on the fiscal cliff, democrats demanding higher tax rates on the so-called wealthy. joining us now is former investment banker carol roth. a, it seems like a total standoff and b, seems like we're headed over that cliff, it looks like it. here is the question for you, carol, if we go over the that cliff what happens to the markets? >> well, stuart, i think if we go over the cliff, the markets are going to react negatively, they reacted negatively the last time we revisited the debt ceiling for tarp, so, i don't think that the markets are going to be particularly happy, but i don't know that it's necessarily for the right reasonss i to think that we're going to get a deal here, but i think it's going to end up happening late january, maybe middle of january, but at the end. day, stuart, it doesn't solve any of our problems. stuart: i agree, i agree. >> and i'm so frustrated that we're 13 months in, we've had 13 months to figure it out and we're at the 11th hour. stuart: everybody is. the mood of the country, furious nothing is happening
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 8:00am PST
. his holiday vacation so he could deal with the looming fiscal cliff. all eyes are on that now and everyone wondering whether congress will be able to reach a deal by january 1st. if not, spending cuts and tax hikes for every american will go into effect and we're watching that story very, very closely. as i mentioned, just five days left before the new year. but wait, before they bring out the champagne and confetti on the 31st, folks in washington need to start making big decisions regarding that fiscal cliff. here's what will happen if no deal is reached. the economy could fall into a recession. that's been widely reported. the congressional budget office forecasts a drop of .5% in the real gross domestic product and a 9.1% unemployment rate by the end of next year. markets in the u.s. and around the world could take a hit. right now the dow is down almost 100 points. no santa clauz rally this year. managing director of the boston consulting group joins me from chicago. great to see you. happy holidays. let's talk about the effect on the economy. i think it's important to po
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 8:00am PST
and all house members are not here in washington trying to work out a deal on the fiscal cliff. here is more from leader reid a short time ago. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give them 8 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences. >> reporter: of course president obama has left hawaii. he is heading back to washington from his family vacation. we learned from the white house that the president had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make decisi
CBS
Dec 26, 2012 5:00am PST
. >> thank you. >>> there's more urgency in washington to get a deal done before the so-called "fiscal cliff" deadline less than a week from now. senate majority leader harry reid was reportedly at the capital on christmas working on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all about the wealthiest americans. his plan would include short term spending cuts instead of long-term deals that had been sought. >>> from hawaii. comes word that president obama will cut short vacation and return to washington later today to take part in "fiscal cliff" negotiations. christmas day the president and first lady met with servicemembers and their families. the president told the marines he was grateful for their service and posed pour pictures. >>> recent college graduates are having a tough time getting jobs in their desired lines of work. according to the latest u.s. census figures about 2 60,000 young adults with college degrees in california are working in food service and retail. >> couldn't get a job in the field that i wanted to so i figured i have to start at the bottom. >> without higher paying j
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 12:00am PST
days away from the fiscal cliff and there are real consequences to millions of americans if no deal is cut. congressman elijah cummings and ryan grim of the huffington post are here with the latest. a tea party giant stages a coupe with his own office. the details on dick armey's hostile takeover. the nra is catching heat from all directions. >> i don't think the nra is listening, i don't think they understand. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the growing drumbeat against the nra. >>> six days until the price of milk shoots up to $8 a gallon. why house republicans are take ing america to the dairy cliff. >>> and civil liberty groups take on torture in zero dark thirty. >>> if no deal is reached, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in a little more than five days and house republicans are doing nothing more than posturing. president obama is flying back to washington tonight from his christmas vacation in hawaii to make one last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose.
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 5:00pm PST
thirty. >>> if no deal is reached, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in a little more than five days and house republicans are doing nothing more than posturing. president obama is flying back to washington tonight from his christmas vacation in hawaii to make one last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is expected to be sworn in sometime tomorrow afternoon. the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to ret
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 8:00pm PST
be cutting spending. whatever deal we get out of all this fiscal cliff madness at the end of the day, is going to be on their terms because of the sequestration they forced from the debt ceiling threat which was irresponsible. the idea in the times today made you think these guys are out of the picture, they have some scuffling at the top. >> what do you make of the article itself? coming at it? do you think they are trying to gin up some kind of -- that is the people who are more interested in seeing this article put forth, they're trying to say the tea party is declining when it's not? >> i think it reflects that shift and the fact that you got more people and more money going into this thing. that's that grass tops part you spoke to. this happens in washington a lot. everyone wants their group to sound as powerful as possible. you wrote the book on hip-hop, with your blessing, i'd like to quote some lines tonight. i'm reminded the blessing's not all the way there. for the audience at home, i'm getting a skeptical look. would you rather be underpaid or overrated? must people would
ABC
Dec 28, 2012 5:30pm PST
the fiscal cliff. but no deal, as anger builds across the country, the clock is ticking. just four days left before taxes go up for all americans and federal programs see major cuts. we've shown you the math here. the average american household would see their tax bill go up nearly $3,500. this evening, president obama telling congress, the american people are watching what we're doing here. he appeared in the briefing room a short time ago. let's go right to jon carl tonight. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, david. there are finally signs of life here in washington. after meeting with congressional leaders here at the white house, the president pronounced himself modestly optimistic that a bipartisan agreement can finally be struck that would prevent taxes from going up on virtually everybody in just four days. after meeting with the congressional leaders, the president said there would be one more effort to come to a bipartisan agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a p
FOX Business
Dec 26, 2012 11:00am EST
to the capital to deal with the fiscal cliff. schulz says the cup campaign aims to serve as a rallying cry in the days leading up to the january 1st fiscal clipped deadline and thereby increase their weight time for a cup of coffee. dennis: no word whether the deal will sue over misappropriation of that phrase. shibani: schulz taking matters of forcing a deal. dennis: i am sure that will work. nothing else has. looking really nice that christmas but it is wreaking havoc on people trying to flee their in-laws and fly home today. we are live in the fox weather center. shibani: speaking of travel we have last minute new year's deal ahead. you don't have to stay home. we have great deals. take a look at this ten year treasury. >> i am lauren simonetti with your fox business brief. there's a sea of red on wall street as washington prepares for another round of fiscal cliff wheeling and dealing. dow jones down 50 points. cablevision filed a lawsuit in the supreme court against the communications workers of america for making false claims about its internet service and britain alleging that distr
CNBC
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm EST
cliff. no deal yet but we're getting lots of mixed messages. >> that's a good way to put it. >> mixed messages around washington today with some animosi animosity, but here's what senate majority leader harry reid had to say just a little while ago. listen. >> i say to the speaker take the escape hatch that we've left you. put the economic fate of the nation ahead of your own fate as speaker of the house. millions of middle class families are nervously watching, waiting and counting down the moment until our taxes go up. >> well, senator kay bailey hutchison is republican from texas, first elected back in 1993 and served in leadership positions and been an outspoken nor to the budget and defense. senator, great to have you with us here. >> we sure are going to miss you, one of the great group of moderates. >> maybe you're relieved to be leaving at this point. >> thinking of new year's eve here in washington and thinking, you know, this is the time to exit. >> go out while things get a little mess over there. how will you feeling after the variousade lines toit about getting things don
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 7:00pm PST
, to be here, to be available if there is a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. it's a positive sign that if congressional leaders reach some type of deal, the house and senate will be in town to get votes on the record. >> right now the spending that we have in washington d.c. is affecting this country. >> i hope the speaker and his republican party will be here, democrats, working to finish the task in reaching an agreement to avert the fiscal cliff. >> barrasso said president obama is eager to go over the fiscal cliff. senator barrasso joins us. well, why do you say that? >> well, i think the president sees political victory at the bottom of the cliff in term of the increased tax money coming in that he can spend for other programs. i think he sees a lot of cut to the military which the democrats have been after for a long time and then he gets to do what he loves to do, is to blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see financial problems for our nation at the bottom of the cliff and that's why i want to get a solution. >> tomorrow do you think it's going to be the beginn
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 10:00pm PST
and make an overall deal and don't worry about the fiscal cliff because i believe it's totally overrated. >> you refer it to it as the fiscal curb. why do you think the fiscal cliff is overrated? >> because ultimately a deal is going to happen. if the republicans are smart, which so far unfortunately it hasn't been working out that way, but if the republicans are smart, they are going to use that and they are going to get every single thing they wanted, including a huge reduction in expenditures. >> the way it seems to be rolling out now is that all our taxes, every single income level is going to go up january 1st if no deal is struck. the democrats, i assume, intend to paint that as a republicans have raised all your taxes and blame republicans. so i don't think the democrats see this as a win for the republicans. >> no. i think that's right. i think that's fine and let it happen because ultimately all of these folks that signed the pledge, and some people that sign a pledge, whether you like the pledge or not, i mean, they sort of feel committed to it. now the tacks go up for a short
FOX Business
Dec 28, 2012 3:00pm EST
leaders right now to see if there's common ground on finding a solution to deal on the fiscal cliff. we told you minutes ago we understand from a source that the president is not unvailing a new offer, but going with the original offer which was dismissed by the g.o.p. leaders so that is one aspect of this. we're also told by an administration showrs that president obama will not be on a call to ceos scheduled at 5:30 this afternoon eastern time. the administration officials saying, quote, it's a routine call with business leaders and white house staff be giving them the latest on the fiscal cliff". lloyd will be on the call according to a source, and still working on exactly what's transpyring inside the white house. that's lloyd blankfind there, again, not part of the call with the ceos, and conferring with the chief executives on what's going on with the fiscal cliff arrangements or, you know, negotiations because, obviously, critical getting closer and closer to the fiscal cliff, session lows now, the news does not portend good news with regard to the negotiations down 158 points an
FOX
Dec 27, 2012 6:00am PST
information on a police involved shooting. >>> president barack obama cuts a deal about the fiscal cliff crisis, stay with us.
FOX Business
Dec 27, 2012 6:00pm EST
to take down the verbal warfare and cut a deal sparing the fallout of the fiscal cliff. gerri: can we get anything with any meaning before the end of the year? >> not get your hopes up on a big deal on the debt. not too many tax increases, some will be in there. avoiding the sequester, the spending cuts, that is the best thing that could happen at this point and i'm pretty optimistic person, i get up every morning thinking good things will happen but this is causing me to drink every night so i did not know if i will get there or not. gerri: you glass half-full kind of guy. i hope your champagne glasses more than half full on new year's. have a good one. while the chances of lawmakers reaching a deal seemed to be slim to none, you'll be glad to know some state lawmakers will% be warned though much more productive. here are some of our favorites. let's start with illinois. starting in 2013 and new law gives motorcyclists be okay to run red lights. leave it or not. after complaints from cyclist who say light sensors don't see the cycles. and the okay for computer-driven cars on public roads
FOX
Dec 28, 2012 5:00am EST
not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it is possible that i compromise will be reached before the deadline. share your comments on our facebook page. just search for fox 5 morning news. no space between fox and the number 5. we may share your comments on air. >> i'm sure you all have a lot to say. we would love to hear t. >>> a big story we are following. norman schwarzkopf has died. the retired general died from come indications of pneumonia. he was given the nickname stormin' norman and best known for leading international forces in iraq against shad's invasion of kuwait in 1991678 the 78-year-old managed to live a quiet retired life in tampa and kept pretty quiet on the u.s.'s decision to go to war with iraq again. >>> also this morning, former president george h. w. bush remains in intensive care at a texas hospital this morning. his chief of staff says his family is confident the 41st president will leave the hospital but expects to be there for a while. he is battling bronchitis, a lingering fever among other complications. the 88-year-old was admitted to the hospital la
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 3:00am PST
? >> happy friday. >> there we go, happy friday. listen, this fiscal cliff deal, everyone is so sick of hearing the phrase. i it talked to several this week, members of congress and members of the senate who indicate we're going over the cliff. they say it won't be that bad. don't worry about it. there's something in me that wonders about the psychological impact of just going right over. >> mike, you're right. they are saying that, and there's a real risk especially in the white house. they know that the reaction of the markets, especially overseas, the credit raters is unpredictable. you don't want to start your second term with a double-dip recession. that's the real risk here. for republicans more and more you hear them saying and i think this is what you're refer to here. you hear them saying, let's just wait until people get their first paycheck. wait until they get that pay economic when there's less withheld and there's not a payroll tax holiday but then they want tax relief. it's a huge risk. another political game at play here. sherman has a great story on the sight right t
FOX Business
Dec 28, 2012 9:00pm EST
of the fiscal cliff. it will allow congress to again take another crack at finding some way to deal with spending cuts and tax reform. gerri: stay with us, rich edson. thank you so much for that report. turning now to our guests. it's up to harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the two leaders in the senate. trying to craft something. how likely is it that there would be a bill that passed the senate and house? after all, that is the problem we have had a long. >> well, first, we have not seen any details of this package. we are talking completely off-the-cuff, but we know will not be at 250. i think carrie reed has problems from new york like dianne feinstein of california, and 250 will be a big pill to swallow. this is a fiscal cliff that we can have 50 days, 60 days down the road. it does not fix the problem if you will have these taxes on $250,000 and above. as rich edson said, this is going to be another deadline in congress has to have. i think everyone needs to get comfortable with the fact that we are going to have these kinds of stopgap last-second deals. gerri: okay, let's get t
FOX News
Dec 31, 2012 3:00am PST
could hear from mitch mcconnel and harry reid. because no deal to avoid a fiscal cliff there is major uncertainty . investors are embracing for trading. dow plunge would 158 points on friday. it was the longest state of losses since july. there is a sell off over seas today to lock in profits. >> another major health scare for secretary of state hillary clinton. >> she was supposed to be back on the job this week. she is instead waking up in new york city hospital new york presbyterian. a blood clot in a follow-up exam. she was forced to cancel the hearing. lawmakers said a hillary clinton must testify before a vote can happen with senator john kerry. nine people are killed and two doysen are injured when a bus crashed off a highway. the bus was driving through a mountain pass. the bus plummled 200 feet down the slope. >> famous ball drop in sometimes square. beefing up security and thousands of extra chromes scattered in the crowd. trust me they are e top of unifs there will be bomb sniffing dogs commissioner ray kelly will said times square will be the safest place on new york's eve
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 5:00pm PST
a deal to avert the fiscal cliff crisis. at this point, the approaching deadline can be measured in hours, and expectations are being scaled down accordingly. >> i suggested to them, if they can't do a comprehensive package of smart deficit reduction, let's, at minimum, make sure people's taxes don't go up. >> the president appearing on "meet the press" this morning, pushing a narrow last-minute deal that would extend the bush tax cuts for the middle class but leave a hoet of other issues unresolved. if congress does reach a small deal on taxes before the fiscal cliff deadlines up, their next fight over the dead ceiling will be queued up and ready to go. whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff tomorrow night, a political stand-off over the debt ceiling is imminent. joining us sort through all of this current and future fiscal crises is ezra klein. at "the washington post" as well as columnist for bloomberg view. thanks for joining us. you addressed the issue of what happens next, i saw you on rachel's show friday. your theory are it's key to how the fiscal cliff plays out. explain. >>
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 9:00am PST
the countried to has the story about the looming fiscal cliff and negotiations underway to get a deal by the deadline. they refer to the talks as a "taxing puzzle." the "l.a. times" has a story on how china's tea farmers are now turning to coffee. why? coffee thrives in high altitude areas and commands as much as three times as much money as tea. >>> also "the spectrum" in st. george, utah has a story titled "unconventional laws." it's an article about how some state laws may seem strange to many residents. one that mandates bicycle riders should keep one hand on the handle bars at all times or get this you could face 90 days in jail or a fine of up to $750. >>> well, three days now to go. you've been hearing about this fiscal cliff. i know you're tired of hearing of it. you've got three more days to hear of it. we might be going off that cliff here shortly. it's the focus right now in d.c. but it's also our focus, the senate in particular. majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell are rushing trying to put together a last-ditch agreement for a bargain, some kind
CNN
Dec 28, 2012 4:00am PST
. >>> a high level meeting to find a fiscal cliff deal. our next guest says the whole thing is going nuclear. we'll talk to ken rogoff on the economy. >>> plus amazing terrifying video when a 33-ton shark tank explodes. you do not want to be near the shark, who would be pretty annoyed. we'll show you the rest of this when we come back. [music: artist: willy moon song: "yeah yeah" label: universal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! welcome back to "starting point." >> good morning, everybody. it's a fight between world powers with agonized parents and children caught right in the middle. russian president vladimir putin signed a bill that bans u.s. families from adopting russian orphans thought to be payback for a u.s. law that attackles human rights abuses in russia. moscow says too many orphans have been abused by their ame
FOX Business
Dec 28, 2012 4:00pm EST
think we are going to get some sort of deal or conclusion to this fiscal cliff by the end of the year think it's going to be a bad deal so while some are saying that we could get a rally if there's a deal reached by the president and congress, we could get a quick ramly, it's only temporary and we face the reality of the situation in the new year, and bottom line, david, when we looked at the oil reports today, there is a significant decline in energy consumption in the united states right now, and while that might be good to lower gas prices, it's not a great sign about the overall economy. david: it's not at all, but it makes the current rise in oil prices seem stranger than before. if the economy's slowing down, no reason for oil to be above 90 # for the long term. >> right. david: thank you very much. >> the trend with the retail consumer as a whole; right? david: market pam, john stevenson and larry, multimedia trust associate portfolio manager from west newton, massachusetts, and if you go to boston college, you see that name everywhere. spent a lot of money at that college. i h
FOX Business
Dec 30, 2012 4:00am EST
the fiscal cliff. he said he is moderately optimistic that a deal could be done by december 31. congressional leaders are working on crafting a bill. certainly no grand bargain here that would improve entitlements. if they can't get a deal, the president has told harry reid to put the white house proposals up for an up or down vote. the details just keep on coming out. with us now are two guests. first, we are going to go rich edson. he is here with the very latest. tell us what you made of the president's comments. he was very direct. reporter: he was. d now he passes on to the senate. senate majory leader harry reid, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. they are trying to come up with something that can pass the house and the senate. the president laid out a proposal earlier this evening. at the beginning of this meeting. $250,000 per year. that income would be shielded from tax increases, and now he wants an extension of unemployment insurance. that is something that essentially a nonstarter in a republican-controlled house. now he is leaving it up to the two leaders in the u.s. senate
FOX Business
Dec 29, 2012 2:00am EST
the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for immediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. gerri: no kidding. we have been telling you that for weeks. democrats and republicans alike should rename their parties the procrastination party. that is because like a lot of college freshman, they left their work until the last minute. including the 800 billion-dollar fiscal cliff that we have been talking about. a hundred billion dollars it hasn't happened yet. it's notlike the deadline comes as a surprise to anybody at all, the least of all congress. they were the ones who extended the bush tax cuts. originally passed back in 20,122,010 and 2012. for two years now, they have known t
ABC
Dec 28, 2012 6:00am EST
left before the fiscal cliff deadline. >> i have to be honest, mr. president,. i don't know, why is, how it can happen. >> senate majority leader harry reid last out at house speaker john boehner accusing him of running a dictatorship. >> she seemed to care more about keeping his pspeakership than keeping the nation on sound financial footing. republicans are. blaming are >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats before just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that would not be fair to the american people. >> president obama will home early from his hawaii in vacation yesterday. speaker boehner called the house back into town for an unusual sunday session. but members of congress understand the 11th-hour actions may not be enough to appease the public. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> the fiscal cliff will bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes will plunged the u.s. back i
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 8:00am PST
to reach a deal, the impact is as unlikely as immediate as the term "fiscal cliff" seems to imply. the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit. when be look at the issue of a -- the markets, however, may feel the brunt of the fiscal cliff fallout. the dow fell on friday after the deal failed the night before. last week fitch warned it may downgrade the u.s. credit rating if congress cannot reach a deal. some lawmakers are angling for the best political outcountry. >> when i listen to the president, i think he's eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs, gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years, and he ge
FOX News
Dec 31, 2012 8:00am PST
the fiscal cliff. a top lawmaker reporting progress in the last-ditch efforts to hammer out a deal in time. a health crisis lands secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital, what doctors are telling us about her condition. plus, iran test firing a new range of weapons right near the strait of hormuz where a chunk of oil passes each day. the impact on the middle east and on our world, it's all "happening now." >> reporter: there is a note of optimism in the race to avoid the fiscal cliff. hello, everybody, i'm uma pemmaraju in for jenna lee today. jon: good to have you here. optimism is always a good thing in washington. that is in short supply. ringing in 2013 at midnight tonight could mean ringing in more than half a trillion dollars in tax hikes and a hundred billion dollars worth of spending cuts from defense and other key domestic programs, that is if no deal is reached in time to avert it. both the house and senate with rare new year's eve sessions today as they try to hammer out some sort of an agreement. >> we do have to work together, because without bi-partisanship nothing
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
passed to deal with the fiscal cliff that are now over the united states senate. if the senate wants to do anything with them, amend them and send them back to the house and perhaps the house will act on it. essentially what boehner is saying is we're not making any moves until the senate amends the two bills we passed over or sends a new one. what are in those bills? well, they essentially extend the bush tax cuts permanently for all earners. and then to avert the sequester and other types of cuts, they make what a lot of liberals have called draconian cuts to meals on wheels, food stamps. it goes into discretionary spending. the house passed bills are absolutely would go nowhere. and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the response i would expect from the democratic side from the senate is hey, we passed a bill too. we passed a bill that does the same thing. why don'
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 7:00am PST
the fiscal cliff. our political panel is going to weigh in on the chances for a deal. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. >>> the pressure is on as harry reid and mitch mcconnell race against the clock to find a fix to the fiscal cliff. joining me are cnn contributor and democratic strategist maria cardona and republican strategist ron bonjin. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> ron, i'll start with you. reid and mcconnell, they really are the focus in the senate. in the house, it's speaker john boehner. i've got to ask you, is his job on the line if republicans balk at any deal that's reached? >> no, not at all. speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's be
KRON
Dec 27, 2012 5:00pm PST
to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff -- is running out for law-makers. automatic tax hikes -- and steep government spending cuts, could be just around the corner. kron4's justine waldman is tracking the developments in washington. with many law-makers still on holiday vacation. and kron4 political analyst michael yaki is also here. we'll get his take on where things stand - next at 5-30! (male announcer) live from the kron 4 news station, this is the kron 4 news. >> grant: now at 5-30. the "fiscal cliff" deadline is five days away. and there is no deal in sight to avoid automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. tonight - our poltical analyst michael yaki is here to break it down for us. but first - kron 4's justine waldman is stading- by to get us up to date on what is happening.justine. >> we have just learned that on friday, congressional leaders will meet with the president to discuss the fiscal cliff standoff. there is no legislation pending in either the house or the senate to avoid going over the cliff. and the converstations about it. continue to be confrontational. tim
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 10:00am PST
to avoid a fiscal cliff. will a deal get done? a newspaper under heavy criticism now for publishing the names of local gun permit legal local gun permit holders online. details on that are next on n "news nation." e reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up a
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 2:00pm PST
. >> thanks. >>> despite all the hand-wringing over the fiscal cliff, investors haven't melt much pain. that doesn't mean if won't get ugly on wall street if we don't have a deal soon. cnn's alison kosik looks at the consequences. >> reporter: don, with wall street focused squarely on the fiscal cliff, there is little incentive for investors to move stocks higher so stocks ended lower for the fifth session in a row friday with the dow tumbling 158 points. this slide began last week when speaker boehner was unable to bring his plan b. to a vote. that would have avoided the fiscal cliff. but he wasn't able to bring that to a vote. that made investors lose confidence, and since then, nothing really concrete has happened with the fiscal cliff to convince investors that a deal can get done. so at this point, the market doesn't really want a band-aid or so-called framework deal. in fact, one trader told me that it would almost be better if we went over the cliff, because that would give the markets some certainty. they would at least know what to expect. that is, of course, instead of a band
CSPAN
Dec 28, 2012 7:00am EST
guards in school. they will have a deal. if it goes over the fiscal cliff, it will hurt the republicans more. host: thank you for the call. a photograph of the president, cutting short his vacation. leaders were blaming each other for the stalled negotiations just days before tax increases lock in. more from the floor of the senate yesterday, harry reid. [video clip] >> speaker boehner should not have that members go back. they are not here. they are not here. john bennett seems to keep more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. he is waiting until january 3 to get reelected as speaker. he has so many people over there that will not follow what he wants. that is obvious from the debacle that took place last week. host: back to your calls and comments. negotiations resumed at 3:00 p.m. this afternoon at the white house. north carolina on the republican line, good morning. caller: how are you/ i'm doing well -- how are you? the budget as far as the epa, i wonder if that would help cutting the budget, plus cutting entitlement spending. instead of
NBC
Dec 27, 2012 7:00am EST
. president obama flying home from hawaii this morning to try and get a deal on the fiscal cliff with the deadline just five days away now, but are the two sides even talking? >>> 36 million hits and counting. the videos that made us laugh, cry and cringe in 2012. we are going to look back at four of the year's most talked about internet sensations as the stars of them join us live in the studios, thursday, december 27th, 2012. >>> from nbc news, this is "today" with matt lauer and savannah guthrie, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> good morning. welcome to "today" on this thursday morning. i'm savannah guthrie. >> i'm willie geist in this morning for matt. we have the party music on for a reason. it's someone's birthday in this room today. happy birthday, savannah. >> thank you. i'm getting my musical request for today. a little techovibe. >> we will have the carbon daters to take us back to the day you were born. >> do you need to tweet out my age? >> i gave some hints. >> turning 30, very excited about that. >> we'll let you have that one. >> a lot of wind in the n
FOX
Dec 30, 2012 10:00pm EST
-day mark of the fiscal cliff. we have an update on where things stand, plus our analyst, mark plotkin, weighs in. >> later, parents can breathe a sigh of relief. finally a social networking site that is kid friendly. those stories and more coming up on the news at 10:00.  >>> new tonight, secretary of state hillary clinton is in a new york hospital tonight, after doctors discovered a blood clot. it stems from a concussion she suffered earlier this month. doctors found the clot during a follow-up exam. she'll remain in the hospital the next 48 hours so doctors can monitor her medication. >>> the looming fiscal cliff, lawmakers on capitol hill today, leaders say no deal is in sight. >> happy new year. >> reporter: the house and senate back to work for a rare sunday session, trying to figure out the fiscal cliff negotiations. a lot of talk. very few solutions so far. >> our membership is as frustrated as the american people we're sworn to serve. >> none of the votes we'll be casting today have nothing to do with the deadlines we face in slightly more than 24 hours. we're here, we're r
CBS
Dec 28, 2012 6:00am PST
on the fiscal cliff. we'll ask republican senator bob corker if a deal is likely, and tell you how no deal could significantly impact everything from the price of milk to the price of gas. >> we also look back at the life and legacy of general norman schwarzkopf and a double agent tells "60 minutes" how he used facebook to infiltrate al qaeda. >> we begin with a look at today's "eye opener" your world in 90 seconds. >> the republicans in the house have left town, the negotiations
CNBC
Dec 31, 2012 9:00am EST
people who would lose about $300 a week if this fiscal cliff passes and there's no deal whatsoever. guys, back to you in d.c. >> all right. john harward, thanks for keeping us posted. we're about six minutes before the bell rings in the final session of 2012. let's bring in matt. good to have you with us. the futures are not too bad. we're coming off five straight losing streaks. on friday we saw the vix post the low of the session. what do you think it will happen today? >> i'm not going to put a lot of credence in the futures this morning. i think that's out of the picture for a lot of people. they didn't really notice it because it happened after the close. we're really not going to put any credence in it downstairs today. obviously everything has to do with what they're going to negotiate starting at 10:00. funny thing is, why 10:00? why are we waiting so long? this is a question that everyone has down here, and everyone has across the country. >> you guys are in here at 7:00 a.m. >> yeah, why not start then? this is an important issue. obviously this is the only issue right now for
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 11:00am PST
the fiscal cliff. i've got tens of thousands of federal employees and a great deal of defense spending would be at risk. so if we don't suspend the sequester and it looks like this very small deal may not even achieve that, then i'd have to be a "no" vote. so if i had to guess right now, i don't think we're going to be able to reach a deal no matter how small it might be. of course, at the very best, all we would do is stumble forward for a couple more months until we hit the debt ceiling and then face another crisis which is really a crisis of confidence in the government. i just can't imagine that the american people can tolerate this much longer, but they're stuck with this congress for the next two years. i mean, i have a lot of thoughts on this fiscal cliff but you wanted to talk about the gun measure, and -- >> i do indeed. >> life has to go on. >> we had that provocative phrasing that it appeared the nra may be out of step with its own membership. do you really believe that? >> yes, i do, martin. frank luntz, a republican pollster polled nra members and he found that there are at leas
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 9:00am PST
to the fiscal cliff -- the stakes are high and the time is short. and so far there has been no deal reached between the lawmakers and president obama to try to avoid going over the fiscal cliff that comes on new year's day. but after a meeting at the white house, the president said he is hopeful. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> cnn's chief business correspondent ali velshi joins us from new york with some very good insight. senate majority leader harry reid has said if they don't reach something by monday he'll bring forward a bill to help out the middle class for an up-and-down vote. >> right. >> put everybody on the record, but especially republicans. isn't that the tactic? >> exactly right. the step before that is harry reid is working on some bill that might get bipartisan support in the senat
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 8:00am PST
're keeping our eye on the senate back in session with the fiscal cliff talks now down to the wire. the big question is even if the senate reaches a deal as they continue the debate will republicans pass anything with tax hikes in the house? up next republican congressman tom cole. and baby makes three. kim kardashian and kanye west's big baby announcement. also, sydney, australia celebrating the new year just three hours ago with fireworks over the famous opera house. in new york city, an already crowded times square. people waking up there. our big question what is your new year's resolution for 2013? tweet me at richard lui. we'll share some of your comments later. >>> a live look at the markets which appear to be taking going over the fiscal cliff in stride. many people say it is built into the market. many investors are still confident leaders will strike some sort of deal as talks go down to the wire and even if they don't they are counting on senate majority leader harry reid to present a backup proposal to limit some of the damage. we're watching live pictures on the right-hand side
ABC
Dec 28, 2012 5:00am PST
in front of an oncoming train. >>> no deal in sight yet to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll tell you how the president is pushing forward as the clock ticks. >>> new york city police this morning are looking for the woman who pushed a man into the path of an oncoming train. police released this footage of the woman who they think did it. video shows her moments after the man was killed by a train in queens. witnesses told detectives the woman followed the man closely and mumbled to herself before shoving him. this is the second time in a month someone has been killed after getting pushed into the path of a new york train. >>> hero of the first gulf war has passed away in florida. retired general norman schwarzkopf died of complications from pneumonia he was 78. he was a highly decoratedgé6m vietnam combat veteran. >>> former president george h.w. bush likely to remain in the hospital through the weekend. his longtime chief of staff says the concern for the elder bush is overhyped and the 88-year-old would tell well-wishers to putggc; the+sks back in the closetq hospitalized since last
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
is coming back to washington to try to reach a deal on avoiding the fiscal cliff. he now has less than a week until automatic tax hikes and sending cuts go into effect and the way out of this mess isn't clear. here's our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash. >> lisa, house republican leaders who are home for christmas held a conference call this afternoon to talk about when the house should come back in session. two gop sources tell me they did not make a decision. it's still up in the air. a reason for that is, if anything can get done in the next six days, the ball is in the senate's court. >>> the capital is a ghost town. the halls are empty, neither chamber in session. an eerie calm, since the fiscal cliff, only the congress has the power to avert, is less than one week away. at their homes for the holiday, the senate democratic leaders are trying to figure out if the president's scaled back bill, keeping middle class tax cuts in place, can pass congress at the 11th hour. >> there is absolutely no reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. at the very le
FOX News
Dec 29, 2012 1:00am PST
to going over the fiscal cliff, the partisan rhetoric reaches new lows. can washington hammer out a deal before it's too late. the american people should be outraged at this because it is disgraceful. it is purposely misleading. >> shocking developments at the state department. the four officials supposedly out of their jobs after the benghazi terror attack reportedly still on the government payroll. how can that be? [chanting] protect the constitution. >> the liberal "new york times" says last month's election significantly weakened the tea party. is that true? we will have a debate. chanting] >> u.s.a. >> caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> i'm greg gutfeld in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us. our top story tonight, the last ditch effort to avert the fiscal cliff. president obama met with congressional leaders for several hours at the white house today to try to hammer out a deal before taxes go up on more than 160 million americans. after the meeting, the president presented a new plan to avoid the cliff and said he was modestly optim
FOX News
Dec 24, 2012 8:00am PST
with no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff we'll look why one of them says a plan could be possible if the president himself didn't want to take us over the edge. >> we are told injuries are serious. they are being treated in local hospitals. as you mentioned a police officer from nearby greece, new york was apparently driving by. he was injured when his vehicle or the area near him was hit by shrapnel. now, as for the crime scene itself, the authorities say that they believe that the shooter is dead. no word as to his identity. also not clear, kelly, is what type of weapon he had with him. the authorities said that it was not clear if it was an assault rifle, the type of weapon we have heard so much about during the past few days. we expect that there will be more information later today. they say there will be a news conference at 2:00 this afternoon. another thing to keep in mind is that because of the attack on the firemen, they were unable to put out the house fire, and what began as a house fire and vehicle fire then spread to at least three other buildings. we are toll that t
CBS
Dec 31, 2012 7:00am PST
wake up the deadline to the fiscal cliff is just 14 hours ai wa. there's no deal yet, but members of congress are heading back to capitol hill. first, breaking news on the condition of secretary of state hillary clinton. >> she's in a new york city hospital this morning being treated for a blood clot. doctors say it's related to a concussion that's kept her out of the office for the past three weeks. margaret brennan is in washington with the latest. margaret good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. secretary clinton is taking anti-coagulant to thin out the blood clot. doctors will monitor her for at least the next 48 hours. >> a warm welcome to the secretary of state. >> reporter: secretary of state hillary clinton was admitted to new york presbyterian hospital on sunday after doctors discovered a blood clot during what was termed a follow-up exam to check on her recovery from a recent concussion. >> thank you very much. how are you? >> reporter: clinton's health scare began after she contracted a stomach illness following a whirl wind trip through eur
CNN
Dec 31, 2012 2:00am PST
to go before america goes over the fiscal cliff. final day for democrats and republicans to get a deal done. if they don't, your taxes go up at the stroke of midnight. the two sides brought in their so-called closers on sunday. vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal. one major stumbling block has been overcome. republicans have dropped their demand to reduce social security, cost of living increases. you will know that as the chain cpi. >> and the public has taken their demand for social security benefits off the table. the truth is they never should have been on the table to begin with. significant distance between the two sides, but n
CSPAN
Dec 28, 2012 2:00pm EST
ahead with your comment. caller: i really don't see much on the fiscal cliff. if they make a deal, either way they go, it will hurt. by the time 2014 gets here and when obamacare kicks in, it will cost me so much that i will have to quit work. it will be worth more for me to be on welfare than to keep working and just working for nothing but health care. host: we will get a response. guest: this is something a lot of people are waiting to see what the impact of that law is going to have. a lot of that, the major provisions don't kick in until now and in the next few years. everyone will wait to see what the impact on the economy will be. there's a big disagreement about what will happen. host: this new york times piece gives a sense of the mood in washington. let's read the first paragraph or two. guest: this is only the fourth time since the 1930's they have had to come back after christmas to do work. this is uncharted territory. no one really wanted to be in a situation, but it was a factor of them having to wait until after the election to start negotiating these things and th
KRON
Dec 30, 2012 8:00pm PST
to other developing news tonight. no deal on the fiscal cliff. if nothing is done by midnight monday, mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in, impacting every american. senate majority leader harry reid says while negotiations are on-going, the senate will not vote on any plan this evening. elizabeth corridan is monitoring the situation from washington, d-c. senate majority leader harry reid says while negotiations are on-going, the senate will not vote on any plan this evening. the senate will reconvene monday morning, at which point there will be just over 12-hours until the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> if nothing is done by midnight monday, mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in, impacting every american. elizabeth corridan is monitoring the situation and brings us the latest. --reporter pkg-as follows -- " as we gather with so much work undone, guide our lawmakers with your wisdom." the senate convened its rare sunday session with a prayer for progress. the house returned from its holiday hiatus. with less than 48- hours until the u-s economy goes o
FOX Business
Dec 28, 2012 5:00pm EST
debate that is just around the corner. adam: oh, joy of joy. >> if we get some deal with the fiscal cliff which i think we will and our politicians are the worst even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut. they will get this done sometime by january 15th or something like that. if they do not extend the debt ceiling you will have close to armageddon at the end of february and march. adam: spencer i take issue what about our politicians being the worst. our congress is the best congress money can buy. don't forget it. jonathan he is talking about armageddon because of the debt ceiling. i would be terrified if i were not in the market putting my toe in this. there will have to be buying opportunity if people panic and sell. >> which market, adam? that can be the story of 2003 and headlines are obviously scary they have a tendency to sell stocks and buy bonds. that is the safe move. i think the reverse will be true in 2013 and stocks will look quite attractive versus bonds. a highly manipulated market government stepped in and tried to hold interest rates low. once inflation starts t
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 7:00am PST
totes, a special buy at just $5.88 a piece. >>> there's still no deal to stop the looming fiscal cliff. but what happens to you if we go off the cliff? for the average american making between $50,000 and $75,000, you see a tax increase of $2,399. making between $100,000 and $200,000 a year, your tax increase is about $6,700. and on december 29th, 2 million americans will lose their unemployment benefits. i want to bring in jared bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist and economic policy adviser to vice president joe biden. that's just some of the details as you so well know here but let's remind ourselves, though, of this word that we have been using. that was termed by mr. bernanke. he called it a cliff. but really -- >> right. >> it is like falling down stairs, isn't it? >> right. more so a staircase or a slope in the sense that some of the damage you just described actually takes a while to arrive and if congress is able to quickly reverse the cliff dive, it could be more and i have heard folks use this, more of a bungee yump to get back up to the cliff. >> at the e
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